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mudpuppy
06-03-2009, 01:49 PM
Lets see if i ca do this right........
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dom
06-03-2009, 02:51 PM
Wow dude, quiet riding. They need to make a sound track for the bike monitoring speed and throttle position, then you can put ear buds in and pretend you have a hot shet exhaust! HA

mudpuppy
06-03-2009, 03:12 PM
HA ! Tuneable exhaust - kinda like those musical horns , you can sound like anything from a harley to a fart !

dom
06-03-2009, 11:55 PM
I thought they offered something like that in a car before, or maybe I read a company thinking about it. Anyhow as the story went, there was a set of sounds saved to the memory on the radio in the car. Sort of like a drum machine where you can select all the different types of drums one would want to play. So, you would be driving in your car and on the head unit had a setting where you could decide what you wanted your car to sound like.

For example: If you selected Porsche 911, the car would play internal sounds of that particular vehicle through the speakers. All the while monitoring your engine rpms and playing the appropriate pitch and rev. Cool thing was it had a bunch of exotic car sounds to choose from!

I think I may have read it from a VW prototype car article back in the day.

GeoD
06-04-2009, 08:25 PM
I needed something like that for my Festiva!!!!

That was a very interesting article. It will be neat to see what the technology will be like in 10-15yrs.

dom
06-05-2009, 12:02 AM
I really like gas engines though. It's good, dirty, and pollution packed fun.

mudpuppy
06-05-2009, 01:55 AM
agree ! And nothing like the smell of 2stroke either .

GeoD
06-05-2009, 07:07 PM
2 Strokes smell like ass!!! :eek:

That is one reason I stay away from them. (meaning never owning one)

They smoke like crazy.

And that Ring Ding Ding Ding......noise they make is god awful. It sounds like a mother in-law!!

Its like a Too Fast Too Furious rice burner car idling with their Walmart exhaust as they sit next to a big block!! :D

Now, that's my opinion. Im a thumper type of person. The 4 stroker never let me down.

Don't get me wrong. The 250R's are sick looking and I would love to take one for a ride. And.....I was seriously considering picking one up. But then I saw the ATC450R. And that was it for the 2 stroker idea!! ;)

I also must admit, I was totally taken back when I turned on the Speed channel one day and there was indoor MX racing and there was the strangest sound coming from the TV. It was four strokes running around the track!!! WTF!!!? Where was that classic Ring Ding Ding Ding!??? Sounded like a bunch of farts on the track!! LOL! So I will say two strokes do have their place in the world. Just not in my garage!

dom
06-05-2009, 07:42 PM
But how do you really feel about two strokes, GeoD? HA

I don't mind two strokes, as long as you are moving and in front you don't smell the fumes.

I enjoy getting on a two stroke and attempting to beat them up, but they end up beating me up.

You are right about all the 450 four stroke bikes though, those things are sick. They rev fast like the two strokes nowadays!

mudpuppy
06-05-2009, 10:56 PM
Ha ! well , i guess i like the smell of ass then .:rolleyes: I will agree though, I would gladly give up my 250R for a 450R . But till that time comes , gotta keep the 250 for the dunes . Yes , It's got some quirks - doesn't like water and a few more , but its a blast to ride . Oh , and thanks GeoD , I used to like 2sickle noises . Now that you likened them to an accord with that $hitty sounding trumpet exhaust , That's what I'll be thinking about every time I ride the thing !:eek:.....Still luv ya bro !:D

dom
06-05-2009, 11:04 PM
I think GeoD is upset.. Look at his signature, he is rocking the war hammer!

My favorite tool is a two stroke. My Stihl "Wood Boss" chainsaw.

I break bad with that thing!

Wait here's the boss now! (Some pictures from last year this time)

http://honda350x.com/gallery/data/504/medium/P1060302.JPG (http://honda350x.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/686)

http://honda350x.com/gallery/data/504/medium/P1060285.JPG (http://honda350x.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/687)

mudpuppy
06-05-2009, 11:17 PM
Ha ! I did notice the sig , something seems different with yours too LOL

dom
06-05-2009, 11:19 PM
Yeah, that's a warning sticker. I have them on all my vehicles.. HA

mudpuppy
06-05-2009, 11:23 PM
Hehe , i like it !

mudpuppy
06-05-2009, 11:43 PM
Hey , those pics just snuk up on me . Man , that brings back some memories ! Back in the day when i was living at home with parents , dad woud get 10 cord of logs dropped off and my summer chore (my payment was room and board ) was to cut , split and stack it - every summer.....sucked ! It was mixed alder , hemlock and something else . Alder split like butter - loved it , but hemlock's some stringy shet and would burry two , sometimes three wedges b-4 some would split .
The year I was moving out he bought a log splitter - cheezee mofo

dom
06-05-2009, 11:51 PM
Shet dude. I bring cutting and stacking wood to the next level out here. I have so much wood that I have decorated my driveway and yard with it. I still have about two months worth of cutting sitting on the ground right now waiting to be dealt with.

I estimate I have enough wood on the ground right now to keep my house warm for the next 5+ years.

Cutting wood is like anything else, fun when you start but that ends quickly.

mudpuppy
06-06-2009, 12:04 AM
LOL ! Getting the look from the wife again .
My most vivid memory was mid August , 98* , sweating like a pig covered in sawdust and dirt and the relentless horseflies !
I still cut n chop my own , but only 2 cord a year .

dom
06-06-2009, 12:40 AM
Burning wood is the deal for sure. Free and makes excellent heat. My electric bill remains constant all year. I don't user central heat or air conditioner (well AC usually twice a summer). I must admit I do love cutting and splitting wood. It's kind of like meditation for me.

GeoD
06-06-2009, 02:01 AM
LOL!!!

Anytime MP!! ;)

I always said those rice burner cars sounded like pissed off bumble bees!!!

I was just bustin on the 2 strokers.

It doesn't matter what you're riding.....just as long as you are RIDING!!! :D

Everybody was changing sigs so I figured I would join in.

Hey MP. You have a 350X also right?

mudpuppy
06-06-2009, 11:29 AM
Yeah , wife and I both have one
HIS

http://www.honda350x.com/forum/picture.php?pictureid=14&albumid=4&dl=1235418684&thumb=1 (http://www.honda350x.com/forum/album.php?albumid=4&pictureid=14)

HERS

http://www.honda350x.com/forum/picture.php?pictureid=21&albumid=4&dl=1235420938&thumb=1 (http://www.honda350x.com/forum/album.php?albumid=4&pictureid=21)

Both stock except for the Supertrapp exhaust and mine has the larger tank

Hey Dom , this is what I thought you had - looks pretty lame compared to your 6-pack rack
http://www.honda350x.com/forum/picture.php?pictureid=18&albumid=4&dl=1235419891&thumb=1 (http://www.honda350x.com/forum/album.php?albumid=4&pictureid=18)
It is handy for small ice chest or tool box tho

This was the last time we went out a few months ago
http://www.honda350x.com/forum/picture.php?pictureid=12&albumid=4&dl=1235418684&thumb=1 (http://www.honda350x.com/forum/album.php?albumid=4&pictureid=12)
That's about half of what we took down the Oregon coast last year. They were all packed in the vertical position , the 250R , 5 scooters and 2 more large quads -behind a 36ft class A motorhome - we did get a few looks Ha ! We had to take pictures of it loaded just so we could remember how to load it - if one vehicle was outta place , it wouldn't all fit- gotta pic somewhere i'll have to post

GeoD
06-06-2009, 11:38 AM
What bike do you like better? The R or the X?

That six pack holder is a Hondaline Accessory.

I agree that the PRM grab bars look much better and are more functional when you need to swing the back end around.

mudpuppy
06-06-2009, 11:45 AM
I like the 350 better since i can ride it anywhere with no problems - trails , pavement , sand . The R is not a trail bike ! It goes vertical at the slightest blip of the throttle ! However , on the dunes , it will eat my 350 and I didn't use paddles .

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06-06-2009, 11:49 AM
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« on: February 27, 2009, 03:22:49 PM »
Hi , my name's Tony and i'm an addict ............(wrong forum ?)

My wife and I are long time quaders and are on the trails as often as possible. We are into mudding / trails / climbing and whatever comes at us . If we don't come home soaked in mud , we didn't do it rite !

She emailed me one day with a pic of a sweet 86 250sx and said it might be fun . I bought it . After unloading it , she hopped on and took off , pulling a wheelie thru the first 2 gears -- i'd NEVER seen her do anything like that before ! She was hooked . This thing was great on the trails and we soon began fighting for a turn .
We decided that this would be awesome for the whole family , so i found a nice little 84 200s for my then 15yo daughter . It was fun and took me all over the trails - but just a little small for my 6'2'' 260lb frame- I needed my own !

While searching for a trike for me , i found a cool little 110 that came with a "running when parked" 200e and a trailer load of parts / pieces / and krapp . The price was just too good to pass up ( they always are , it seems)

The ad said " 81 Honda 250R - fresh prof reblt engine w/recps -ride like your hair's on fire " This was a message from above !.... I WANNA RYDE LIKE MUH HAR'S ON FIRE ! That's me right there baby !

We have utility quads....Large ,monster utility quads with 750's , with perf mods ! Piped , jetted fire breathers that I climb trees and cross raging rivers with - and they are VERY fast..............for utility quads !
(this is important for later )

I met the guy at his storage rental and he pulled out a slightly taterd lookn machine , but it ran great (even blew cute little smoke rings) as i'm gett on , he sez "the front end likes to come up a little" (yeah , whatever)
IN EVERY FREAKN GEAR ! so i made one lap around the building and parked it . I had'nt opened her up at all , just kinda putted around , so i wasnt REALLY aware of it's true potential .

The only 2 stroke i've ever dealt with was my weed eater.....remember this too

Having had to drive all the way to BFE to see this thing , the thot of driving home - thinking about it and then driving all the way back (if i wanted it) was killing me . I bought it on the spot

Our favorite riding spot (Reiter pit) was really full the day i unloaded my new prize . At the end of the parking area there is a set of whoopties (4 to be exact) that i like to jump with the quads and the sx , so upon approach , i gave a little gas (just enuff that the front end stayed down)- Oh , its a twist throttle - i hit the first hump,getting jarred alittle , i inadvertantly hit the gas.....i now was in liftoff position -like at cape canaveral.
Every time the rearend touched down , i goosed the throttle.. i don't think the front end ever touched.
(i was later told this maneuver was REALLY cool and was begged to do it again - yeah , i meant to do that..not!)
After a quick check in the shorts , i was off again , but never able to get out of 2nd . Just way too much power for a person with little riding experience. I was truely bummed . What was i to do with this little beast ? It was like riding a warthog on crack !! I had the same feeling i had as a kid at Christmas , opening a gift --of underwear !

I learned a great lesson...when an EXPERIENCED rider sez "crazy fast" ....well , u kno

I decided to sell it , mabe trade for another sx--more my speed

That summer , we went to Florence , Ore. and just incase i was missing something , took the litle R with.
Well boyz , I'm keep'n the R ! We tore it up down there ! As it turns out , sand is a pretty good medium to learn on. Since i hadnt planned on keeping it , all it had on the back was a set of razr's . What the heck would it have done with a set of paddles ?!

Since then , i've added a pair of 85 350X's (does it ever stop?) which really are a joy as well.
So , my now 17 yo does'nt get the fascination with 3 wheelers and prefers the quads , but the wife and i love'm .
I'm always on the lookout for an 86ish Big Red 250 , that'd round out my collection quite nicely !

The R will be my first teardown , so be prepaired to answer some stupid questions ..at 43 , I'm a baby to the sport .

Thanks guys , and sorry this got so long , just excited. I'll post pics as soon as i figger it out.
I'm an auto mechanic by trade and have restored two vintage Harley's , so i do know my way 'round a tool chest , but when it comes to the puter thingy , i can be a real 'tard .
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GeoD
06-06-2009, 11:49 AM
I often wonder what bike would win a drag.

Its been a never ending argument with people.

Im thinking in a long flat out race the X will win because of the extra 100cc.

My Quadfest06 pics I was nose to nose with a R. We were right in front of the drag strip and the guy asked me if I wanted to run. I said SURE!!! But the security guys wouldn't let us. They said "Quadfest is over. Come back next year". So, the race never happened.

As I said before, I never owned or rode a 2 stroke so I can't even try to compare the two.

mudpuppy
06-06-2009, 12:03 PM
If you talk to the R guys , the X can for the most part keep up but the R has a little more and will eventually walk away . On hardpack , if i could keep the front end down , my R would stomp my X . BUT , the 350 is bone stock (except exhaust) where as the R has been gone thru . To ride the trails with it i'd have to change out the sprockets and push the fork tubes up in the tripples

GeoD
06-06-2009, 12:07 PM
Nice story Mud!!

Im glad to see you converted over to three!!!

I bought my first and last Quad two years ago. It has it's purpose. But, I feel at home on my X. I took my neighbor's Raptor 700 for a ride and I quickly gave it back to him. Not because of the speed. It was the odd feeling of being on four instead of three. The quad rode a bit different then my X.

I used to ride a few minutes from my house back in the day (before the EPA shutdown all our riding land. I would ride on the old railroad trail (the tracks were torn down years before that). The railroad stones formed 4ft whoops. I would hit them in 3rd or 4th and ride the very top of the whoop like you mentioned you did Mud. I'd hit 10+ with just the rear tires before getting out of rythm. It was neat!!!

Well, speaking of riding. I gotta go get my van and get it loaded. Fonzie and I are meeting up tomorrow to do some riding!!! I will have pics to post afterwards.

mudpuppy
06-06-2009, 12:43 PM
Have fun . Guess I should get some work done myself

dom
06-06-2009, 09:02 PM
First chance I have to get a decent R, I am on it.

GeoD
06-06-2009, 11:34 PM
Hey MP.

I just found out AC Racing makes a sixpack grab bar. Looks nice!! It might be a little more compact then the PRM one.

http://acracing.com/itemdetails.cfm?id=521

dom
06-07-2009, 12:16 AM
Almost exactly the same deal I have. I don't have the two vertical holes in the front though.

mudpuppy
06-07-2009, 01:05 AM
That looks cool AND under a hundred bucks . I like that

SCUBA
06-07-2009, 01:13 AM
R vs. X ..........Man I have a fresh built X and my brother has a R that we built with my dad, bless his sole, back in 1990 or so and it spanked me ars on my madden vouiage out when I told him about the prob with my carb sync. he went and bought the 276 kit to put on it, ............It must have scared him

dom
06-07-2009, 01:21 AM
So the R was faster?

SCUBA
06-07-2009, 01:27 AM
off the line i took off in second cuzz we were on the sand dunes and at the top of each gear he would pull a bit further ahead of me but wen i shifted up we would hold even till we got to the top of that gear and so on........ I later ..... a week later.....figured out that my carb was out of sync. between the butterfly and the slider

dom
06-07-2009, 01:30 AM
Wow, so it is really close then.

SCUBA
06-07-2009, 01:38 AM
close enough that with an after market exaust and jeting the carb we could beet a stock R

dom
06-07-2009, 01:46 AM
That's impressive. I always thought the R was WAY faster than the X.

SCUBA
06-07-2009, 01:48 AM
well now the bike iwas up against was on an old build 1990

dom
06-08-2009, 10:22 AM
I am patiently waiting for a good deal on an R to come my way.

SCUBA
06-08-2009, 10:40 AM
I have an 85 chassi swing arm and axle that I intend to build up soon...... "with-in the next 10 yrs or so"

dom
06-08-2009, 07:10 PM
Sounds like you are on the same time line for projects as me!

SCUBA
06-08-2009, 07:17 PM
heck man i got the chassi in 02 when i was working on my rice rocket 4-wheeler and devorced it all sat still till i fond my X rotting away next to a shead that took priority over any R bike around I meen who wants a girl when you can have the mother of all trikes

dom
06-08-2009, 07:49 PM
You still need a girl around for when the ride is finished!

mudpuppy
06-09-2009, 02:44 PM
If you've never had an R , you wouldn't regret getting one . The power band is so much different - just 2-stroke power in general is a different experience .

When your schfinkle gets a blister fron the tail pipe , you'll wish ya had a girl :)

GeoD
06-09-2009, 04:30 PM
Fonzie02 said the next time we ride he is going to bring his R. He said he would let me take it for a spin. It will be the first time I ride a 2 Stroker. The only other experience I had on a 2 stroke was my buds Maco 250. I was in first gear just giving it a bit more gas to reach the shift point and then my arse almost went flying off the back!!!! I got it in 2nd and rode it up the street in 2nd. Got off the bike and told my bud to keep it!!! Since I only got in second and I was riding up the street I wouldn't consider that riding. Maybe chittin me pants!! LOL!

It will be interesting to give a R a try.

Im still gunning for one of those ATC450R's though!!! Gotta get me one of those!

SCUBA
06-09-2009, 05:23 PM
oh ya the 2 stroke is a high RPM horse power that loves a good holeshot at the bottom of a big hill and there is no comparing the X and the R in that since ...... but to have the R in 4th or 5th gear screaming like a raped ape ...... I think I do prefer it over my X ..... well some may argue but i want to have both like Fonz ... R for the dunes and wide open riding and X for the trails and fields

mudpuppy
06-09-2009, 07:04 PM
That's the only reason I'm keeping mine - for the dunes . It just has far too much power for trail riding . I can get vertical in every gear and second is all i can do without gettn all puckered up . It's woth hanging on to for sand riding

dom
06-10-2009, 06:50 PM
As much as I love two strokes I try to stay away from them. When I do find myself on one I ride like the freaking wind. I can't do anything, but nail the throttle and hold on!

I remember the last time I rode one was in Colorado, my buddy just purchased a used CR 250, or something like that. It was a sweet ride. After watching him putt around on it for a bit he offered to let me ride it. I got on that unit clicked down into first, nailed the throttle and dumped the clutch, first-second, and third all came pretty quick while the whole time standing on one wheel. I finally brought it back down in the middle of fourth because I was starting to go too fast. I remember shooting over a small ridge on a mountain and catching way more air than I intending and about shet myself. When I landed I was amazed I actually pulled it off, so I immediately turned around did it again!

After beating the shet (nailing the throttle the whole time) for about 10 minutes I brought the bike back down by the truck to my buddy. He was like, "give me that, your going to break it!" It was pretty funny..

I guess the point of this story is, I am not mature enough yet to have a two stroke.

GeoD
06-11-2009, 01:24 AM
Kinda like the reason why I drive four cylinder cars!!! :D

dom
06-11-2009, 09:45 AM
I've actually gotten better on the road. There is just something about losing your license three times that will really slow your azz down..

GeoD
06-11-2009, 11:10 AM
Yeah, that would do it.

I got two speeding tickets since Ive been driving. :D

Three accidents (one my fault back in 88)